Concerning the Real-ID vs AB 60 CA drivers licenses, we last heard that ATF would accept the ones with “Federal Limits Apply” on the front only, as long as the back didn’t also declare you a non-citizen.
For those of you who don’t know, when you purchase a firearm arm you are checked and approved by both ATF and CA DOJ.
So of course while ATF accepts the version of the CDL without the restriction on back your wonderful CA DOJ has decided that “Federal Limits Apply” on just the Front disqualifies you.
- CA DMV convinced ATF it was ok (heaven forbid they can’t pump out those ‘undocumented’ licenses).
- CA DOJ is actually, again, writing its own laws, ones it is not empowered to do.
So expect the worst for now, hope we get an injunction against this one too, and again, consider getting the ‘REAL-ID’ if your CDL renewal date is before Oct 2020 (when it real goes south for gun owners in CA)
Are you mad enough to get you friends, neighbors and fellow gun owners registered to vote now?????????????????
Also, the CRPA (California Rifle & Pistol Association) sent out an email concerning this issue titled “Follow Up Special Alert: Firearm Purchases and Identification Issued by CA DMV” which said:
It has come to our attention that DMV is issuing identification to lawful California residents that are identical to those issued to individuals who are unable to provide proof of their lawful presence in the United States.
In addition, NRA and CRPA attorneys have received word from at least one firearms dealer that the California Department of Justice (“CA DOJ”) has taken the position that any license with the words “FEDERAL LIMTS APPLY” is not acceptable for the purposes of purchasing or transferring firearms, regardless of any additional language on the back of the license. This appears to be an unlawful overreach by CA DOJ because the question of lawful presence in the United States as it relates to firearm purchases falls directly under ATF’s control.
Under California law, one only needs to provide “clear evidence of the person’s identity and age” when attempting to acquire a firearm from a California licensed dealer. “Clear evidence” is defined as a valid California Driver’s License or Identification Card. Because both AB 60 licenses and non-REAL IDs are considered valid California identification, regardless if they satisfy federal requirements or not, both satisfy California’s requirement of “clear evidence of the person’s identity and age.”
Following additional clarification from ATF and DMV, NRA and CRPA attorneys will address CA DOJ’s position should they still insist that such licenses are restricted. Until then, we recommend our members hold off on renewing their California identification if possible or apply for and obtain a REAL ID.
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